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Battery Lie

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  1. Beth Cravens says:

    Exactly, there’s such a disconnect between our tech and where it comes from.

  2. Frogstein says:

    Except that the amount of emissions, even from a coal plant, for the amount of power that an electric car users, is less than what you can expect from the pollution generated by a car with an internal combustion engine generating equivalent power. And that doesn’t take into account the reduction of our dependence on foreign oil, or the fact that pollution generally increases over the life of a vehicle, especially if it is not maintained correctly.

    Nice try, though.

  3. admin says:

    @Frogstein, An additional source of pollution and carbon emissions that should be added to the equation, is that generated by producing new cars to replace the old ones.

  4. Frogstein says:

    Nobody (well, nobody I know) is suggesting that you should go out and buy a new electric and/or hybrid to replace a perfectly working ICE vehicle. But if you’re looking to buy a new car, anyway…

  5. Jym says:

    @Frogstein – Most electricity on the North American continent comes from fossil fuels. While there is some control over efficiency and pollution from a single source, these gains are lost in the transmission of energy over wires, through transformers, and while recharging batteries. Basically the only way not to pollute more is to scrupulously recharge off-peak, from idle capacity.

    For now there are few enough EVs on the road that this is possible, and their owners swear up and down that they never recharge during peak hours, but in fact they do it whenever they “need” to, and rationalize it away. The plugin hybrid (PHEV) crowd fashions itself as a bunch of rebels (because *gasp!* they risk voiding their warranties), and talks about saving money rather than energy, so they don’t even pretend to be recharging off-peak.

    Even so, if everyone scrupulously recharged their cars off-peak AND we played the game of devoting all the renewable resources to them, it still wouldn’t take long before EVs passed the “lower emissions” barrier and then started actually increasing emissions. In 1993 the main energy utility for southern California and the state itself calculated that this would happen once EVs exceeded only 14% of the cars on the road. That’s not saving any planets any time soon.